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Ponderings: Are Online Friendships Real?

Ponderings: Are Online Friendships Real?

My lovely friend Sueanne & I

This week’s pondering…..Do you feel your online relationships are real friendships? Why or why not?

There is much said online about authenticity and transparency in social media – it is a frequently discussed in chats and streams all over Twitter. What I am wondering is if the friendships that are formed within online communities and individuals are real. Is there enough authenticity within social media that you can have a real friendship. Really real – like I have an emergency I need to call you or I need help with something do you know the answer to that? For me, I do feel that I have true friendships and bonds with people that I have met online. This is not to mean that everyone I am friendly with is a friend – that is not the same thing to me. A surface level relationship of casual “hi” tweets and light conversation is not a friendship but it is really nice to have these people and these relationships can grow, stay the same or sometimes just fade away. It is remarkably easy to lose people on Twitter that you have at this level.

If you move beyond Twitter to a phone call or Skype conversation, this can deepen the level of friendship as you might get to know more details about the person and their life. For me, I have been very blessed to attended many tweetups around the country in Chicago, New York City, Hudson Valley and Boston. My husband came to my first tweet up in Boston because he was worried about “the internet people” and my safety. He was really impressed by all my Boston friends and we had a great time! 96.2% of the time, the people that I have met have been exactly like they are online. I felt like I already knew them and it was the ultimate friendship affirmation. Sure, there was a few people that I didn’t click with or talk to much afterwards but the majority of the friends – and I do call these people TRUE friends – have been a wonderful gift in my life. They get my need to have my sparkly iPhone in my hand all the time and we already have a great level of communication built. I had the pleasure of being on a panel at a #140 Conference in Hudson Valley with friends that I had been talking to for months – it was a total blast!

Here are what other’s ponderings were….

Thoughts from: Bruce Sallan, Author, radio host of “The Bruce Sallan Show – A Dad’s Point-of-View”, and host of #DadChat 6pm PST, 9 pm EST

I’ve been calling my online relationships, “Virtual Friends.” That is not meant in a derogatory way, just in a way that distinguishes it from my IRL friendships. The depth of feeling I have towards said “Virtual Friends” varies just as much as my IRL friends.

Some of my VFs have blossomed into deeper friendships when we’ve met, participate in Tweet Chats, and otherwise carried our relationship beyond 140 characters. While Twitter is an exceptional networking tool, for me the deeper connections still require actual contact.

Nonetheless, sometimes I feel I know my VFs extremely well. The dad blogger community has grown in ways I couldn’t have imagined. As I meet more and more of my VFs, at conferences or other events, they just develop further into people I truly care about.

Like everything in life, it’s a matter of degree, a matter of how much you put into it, how much you give, and the journey is as much fun as the destination! Peg is a perfect example of a VF that I know is going places. We’ve yet to meet, but the amount of depth we’ve shared in our e-mails, chats, and tweets, not to mention the mutual support we’ve given each other in the form of comments, has revealed more about Peg than many of my so-called Drinking Buddies.
I love it

Thoughts from Libby Baker: Libby’s Blog

“Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: “What! You too? I thought I was the only one.” — C.S. Lewis — This is my favorite quote on friendship helps answer the question: Do you feel your online relationships are real friendships? Why or why not?

My answer is a resounding “YES”! And it stems from my definition of friendship contained partly in this quote. True friendship begins with recognition. Seeing something in the other person that pulls you towards them, makes you want to connect, spend time with them, get to know them better. Because you realize when you meet them, whether it be in a grocery store or a Twitter stream…that you want to know more about them. There is an immediate connection and a promise of more, a comingling of souls! This can happen just as easily on a Skype call as a phone call, at a face to face meeting, or a tweet. There are no barriers of time and space in the realms of our souls and hearts where friendship dwells.

I have known times when I needed a friend, and couldn’t get in touch with my sisters or brothers, or my best girlfriend since I was 13, my husband, or my daughter and my dear friends from Twitter Dave Reynolds @997dave and Rickie Tyler @rickietyler have come through for me with a timely Skype call all the way from Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Two of my very best girlfriends are Heather @AliveinMe and @MaryJTriviski. I met Heather on Twitter and Mary through Heather on Facebook. Mary lives about a half hour from my house, but our paths wouldn’t have crossed…the city is too large — except for my friendship with Heather who lives in Philadelphia.

I have many stories like these. My Twitter and Facebook friends have enriched my life and the giving goes both ways. I am thankful for the wonderful friends I have, no matter where or how we have met or connect. They are supportive, delightful, funny and fun and enrich each day. Hey, you may need someone to talk to in the middle of the night and wouldn’t dare call anyone on the phone, but Twitter is always open!

Thoughts from Dave Reynolds:

I have been thinking about this quite a lot recently. I did not know Trey Pennington. As a serious student of Social Media, I certainly knew WHO he was and what he stood for. His passing affected me deeply and profoundly. How could someone with so many “friends” be so uncertain about life? Easily pondered not easily answered, perhaps impossible.  I am not a smart man, please bear with me while I try to explain and let me start here. I think friendship is a responsibility not an opportunity. I have honestly tried to live that thought. On-Line “friendships” are a pretty new thing for me.  A lot of kind and generous people are found On-Line particularly in the #UsGuys stream on Twitter. This is good. But, what if an On-Line “friend” was in REAL trouble? The kind of trouble that, although helpful, kindness and generosity with one’s time and good wishes, is not alleviated. Real “friendship” is a responsibility not an opportunity, whether in On-Line or in real life.  If I publicly state to be your “friend”, then when you are in REAL trouble,  it’s my responsibility as your “friend” to help or I am a fraud. An On-Line friend of mine experienced some REAL trouble recently. He did not ask for my help. I just did.

I’m not sure there IS an answer to this question. Friendship kinda resists any linear structure and is really not measurable in any practical sense…but if you care enough to help someone out, and really reach out to them in today’s world then you are a friend. So maybe, just maybe I’ve answered the question. I CARE ergo on-line friendships are real. They impact my life just like the friends who live on my block. In some cases, MORE!

A good exercise for the heart is to bend down and help another up. ~ Some wise man

What are your thoughts about online friendships? Have you attended any tweetups or conferences with friends that you have met online? Please share your experiences and thoughts.

Photo credit Paul Biedermann
Article by Peg Fitzpatrick

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18 comments
sunkat (Kat S)
sunkat (Kat S)

Hi Peggy!  Thanks!  I chat & phone on Skype. I do not accept random calls. All of my buddies are tactful to send a private chat message to see if I can take a call before phoning in. However for my international friends and when there are several of us communicating we go for the chat format only. We once did  a group call and it was very funny for all of us, chuckling at each of our regional dialects (one Australian, one Scottish, two Texans, one Norwegian, one  New Yorker and 2 Michiganian) and comparing how different we all sounded :-) Yes, some days it get's busy, chats, tweets & IM's and notifications coming from all over the place! But now, I couldn't imagine life before we all were so inter-connected.

sunkat (Kat S)
sunkat (Kat S)

I've met some awesome folks on social media that I've known and communicated with just as longer as some RL folks. I have some that are overseas and we share our cultures and our regional diversities, If I don't hope in Skype for a few days they wonder am I well. I have friends that I communicate daily with that are state side too. If I travel to their part of the country I'd want to meet them in real life so, absolutely they are real friends. I'd be happy to do coffee at Panera or Starbucks and cover the bill cause they all know I am a coffee fan! Not to mention the flip side, the RL friends who have moved to other states and now are connected to me solely via social media ;-) 

Matt Ramos
Matt Ramos

They are real if you let them grow. Besides the touch element, you can create everything else with a skype session + webcam or G+ hangout. Of course you can't do activities together unless the internet creates that but I'm for personal, deeper conversation anyways. So yes they are real if you let them develop that way

Daniel Newman
Daniel Newman

We met here and we are friends - so Yes! - is that too short of a response?

Dean Clevett
Dean Clevett

Peg, great post.  And hell yes, they are.  I've had the pleasure of meeting a couple of my tweeps IRL at meet ups so far and I plan to meet more.  I enjoyed #margaritas IRL with @prosperitygal:twitter and at a meet up in Minnesota organized by @libbytalks:disqus had the pleasure of meeting her friend @MaryJTriviski:twitter. More locally, I met @HeatherEColeman:twitter and am now working on a Midwest International Tweetup after some instigation by her and @beckyrbnsn:twitter. I'm hoping to finally get a chance to meet Becky and @GarryTrammell:twitter when it's finally pulled together.  And I can't wait to meet @josepf:twitter, @milaspage:twitter and others at #140confMTL.  And just let me say that @997dave:twitter is being very modest.  Anyone who he calls friend should be honoured.  

Sarah Arrow
Sarah Arrow

I am coming to Blog world East in 2012, East Coast is easier for me with the time difference. Am setting up my own blog conference in the UK, so  we can catch up with the rest of the world :)

Chloe
Chloe

I think there was a stigma attached to online relationships early on due to the stereotype that people were using it were either up to no good or looking for anonymous sex. For years I was almost embarrassed to tell people in real life about my online friends, even though almost all my online friends were *gasp* homeschool moms. And even if I wasn't precisely embarrassed, I had a hard time explaining it to people who didn't understand it.

Sueanne Shirzay
Sueanne Shirzay

It's me, Sueanne, Peg's friend in the photo. Thanks Peg!Yanno, I've had many friends online now. For me, I need at least a phone call to move from a surface level friendship to a real meaningful friend. Why? Too many wacky folks pretending to be somebody they are not online, mainly.However, once that voice or in-person contact is made, I will say friendships that started out online turn out to be even better and closer than some of the ones that are never online. I've met about 500 people that are online..offline... at conferences, tweetups, outside my fire escape, and such.Maybe this is because the written word is just as important as what is spoken, and perhaps even better thought out.Thanks for writing this and so happy to be your friend! : )

Paul Biedermann
Paul Biedermann

There is something to that whole “getting-to-know-you-through-writing thing” that let’s us learn a lot about each other before meeting in person. Of course, I have met you both in person (otherwise, how would I have taken that great photo of you two!) and count you among my “real” honest-to-goodness friends. May we share many more laughs! (and a little bacon once in awhile wouldn‘t be so bad either ;-)

Sarah Arrow
Sarah Arrow

I got married back in 2008, some of the wedding guests were friends I had made on Twitter. We'd never met until then, we've met a few more times since. I think as you get to know people online and you get curious and you want to meet them, I am desperate to get to blog world and meet a whole heap of US bloggers who I chat to regularly.  They're still friends on my book :)

Kate-Madonna Hindes
Kate-Madonna Hindes

Peg,   No matter where I travel to, I always try to meet up with an 'online friend.' Most recently, I was speaking in Fargo. Two, great people I had been following and interacting with on Twitter were in the area. It was amazing giving Kim, (@kbettcher) and Paul, (@PFritz21) a hug and talking over mongolian bbq and s'mores. The true power of our relationships is how many people we can walk up to in a room and say, "I am SO glad to meet you." (And actually mean it.) Online relationships evolve into offline relationships, if you're willing. It's so worth it!

Doug Rice
Doug Rice

Great question, Peggy! There's definitely something interesting about the difference between a virtual connection and a real-life one. I think the distinction has diminished over time, though. In the age of chat rooms and even MySpace, meeting an online friend in person would have been scary. People were fairly anonymous and secretive about their presence. Now, social media provides a very transparent platform and the relationships you develop are becoming more and more real. I've spoken to several people in person that I've met online. I don't think I would call any of those people when I need help but I'm fairly new online; it may come to that eventually. A relationship is a relationship. As is said in the comments below, IRL relationships are the same way; some people are closer than others. The social media revolution has just enabled a broader pool of relationships to draw from. The relationships, digital or in person, are exactly what we make them. Thanks for sharing!

Sueanne Shirzay
Sueanne Shirzay

It's me, Sueanne, Peg's friend in the photo. Thanks Peg! Yanno, I've had many friends online now. For me, I need at least a phone call to move from a surface level friendship to a real meaningful friend. Why? Too many wacky folks pretending to be somebody they are not online, mainly. However, once that voice or in-person contact is made, I will say friendships that started out online turn out to be even better and closer than some of the ones that are never online. I've met about 500 people that are online..offline... at conferences, tweetups, outside my fire escape, and such. Maybe this is because the written word is just as important as what is spoken, and perhaps even better thought out. Thanks for writing this and so happy to be your friend! : )

Chloe
Chloe

I've been making online friendships since 1998.  When my son was giving me fits, my online friends were the ones sending me chocolate and cards. When my mother was dying my online friends were the ones checking on me everyday and after she died it was my online friends who sent me the most flowers.Yes, my real life friends were there too, but it was my online friends who sustained me.I started sleeping with my online (girl) friends in 2006 when I started attending meet-ups. I have three friends from around the country and we travel every year to see each other. Next week we'll be in Atlanta together at Bloggy Boot Camp (blogging started as an excuse to meet-up together). Are online friendships real? Damn right they are.

Jessica Northey
Jessica Northey

You are awesome! Called you for coffee this morning :) and can't wait to meet you in real life. Yes, i would drop everything if you needed me!

Marc Zazeela
Marc Zazeela

Interesting to think about Peg.  I have lots of Online friends.  Are Facebook friends real?  Are LinkedIn connections real connections?  Are tweeps real people? I think it depends.  It depends on the level of engagement that you have with each other; and no two are likely to be the same.  As you said, the casual "hi" tweet is no more indicative of friendship than the "hi neighbor" you might say to some passerby while walking your dog.  More perfunctory than emotional. Can you have a true friendship without ever having met or spoken?  I think so.  Is it different than the relationship you have with your high school buds?  Probably. I think each and every relationship, virtual or in the flesh, must be evaluated on its own merits.  Thanks for the conundrum.  Marc

Bruce Sallan
Bruce Sallan

Peg and I "chatted" last night. Again, it was "Virtual," but it was heartfelt and real - as much or more than any superficial friend! It's like life - a constant variety!